Once again that liberal jerk Frank Rich has written yet another piece of trash vilifying the White House for being angry at the Newsweek article falsely accusing our Military of desecrating the Koran, and like his croney, Boob Herbert, his Op Ed appears in the New York Times.You know, Frank, you are fucking annoying. And you're fucking stupid. And the sad fact that you make so much money for being both annoying and stupid is a travesty. You carry around your left wing, anti Bush, anti Republican, anti Right agenda and display it with such arrogance and pride that I have to wonder if anyone can fit into the same room as your ego!!
"Our United States military personnel go out of their way to make sure that the Holy Koran is treated with care," said the White House press secretary, Scott McClellan, as he eagerly made the magazine the scapegoat for lethal anti-American riots in Afghanistan. Indeed, Mr. McClellan was so fixated on destroying Newsweek - and on mouthing his own phony P.C. pieties about the Koran - that by omission he whitewashed the rioters themselves, Islamic extremists who routinely misuse that holy book as a pretext for murder.ast week, the question of why they hate us can now be answered in just one word: Newsweek."Well Frankie poo-it may seem to YOU that Scott was fixated on scapegoating Newsweek, but to anyone with half a brain, it's clear that Scott was articulating what is established and well practiced MILITARY POLICY and there's a world full of Milbloggers, and Iraqi's who bare witness to this fact.
WHO bared witness to the alleged descration of the Koran that an alleged "reliable source" allegedly provided???
That's how absurdly over-the-top the assault on Newsweek has been. The administration has been so successful at bullying the news media in order to cover up its own fictions and failings in Iraq that it now believes it can get away with pinning some 17 deaths on an errant single sentence in a 10-sentence Periscope item that few noticed until days after its publication. Coming just as the latest CNN/Gallup/USA Today poll finds that only 41 percent of Americans think the war in Iraq is "worth fighting" and only 42 percent think it's going well, this smells like desperation. In its war on the press, this hubristic administration may finally have crossed a bridge too far.Frank you are obviously having some kind of synapic misfire or breakdown. THIS admin has BULLIED the LEFT WING LIBERAL MEDIA into COVERING UP its own fictions??????Are you smoking cheap shit again???
THE LEFT WING MEDIA (aka the MSM) HAS ENDLESSLY SHOVED THEIR LIES AND PERPETUATED THEIR BLANTANT LEFTIST AGENDA ON THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, WHICH IS WHY THE MSM ARE LOSING RATINGS, SUBSCRIPTIONS ARE DECREASING, AD REVENUES ARE DOWN, AND NO ONE IS PAYING MUCH ATTENTION TO YOU ANYMORE, OTHER THAN THOSE FOOLS WHO ARE AS DELUSIONAL AS YOU!The entire success of Fox News and Talk Radio is a direct backlash to the left wing agenda you and your ilk shove down our throats! Let me see how many examples of this admin bullying the MSM you will dare to produce! Is this the same MSM that has made a point of supporting Saddam, terrrorists, mass murderers, illegal immigrants, gay marriage, and uses PC words like "insurgent" or "suicide bomber" to exonerate the actions of the despicable lowlifes they support and lend credence to???Oh and by the way- if a left wing paper and a tv news network that have never supported the war- are claiming that only 42% of Americans now support the war and think it's going well, then there are only two questions to ask:1) Who did they poll?
(Their subscriber base represents those that believe as they do. Hardly objective!)2) How could those that watch CNN and read USA Today ever feel differently when the ONLY news they get from these two left wing media outlets is bad and rarely reflects anything positive going on Iraq?
Try asking that same question to those that watch Fox News, read milblogs, live in Iraq, write blogs, listen to talk radio,and have a far more objective understanding of what is really going on Iraq. I KNOW if you did, you'd find out that a larger majority of Americans do in fact still support this war, and KNOW its going we
ll.For those that don't know the war is going well, the MSM IS TO BLAME for NOT being objective, fair and balanced in it's reporting of the TRUTH and the REALITIES in Iraq, and of the MANY successes in both Iraq and Afghanistan! Do you know that 80% of Iraq is safe, secure and stable,Frank? Do your readers know that Frank? Does the MSM know that Frank? It's doubtful from reading what you and the MSM spew forth daily.But thank gawd some of us don't pay much attention to the MSM or you anymore......well at least those of us who know better.Unless it's to laugh at your arrogance coupled with your stupidity wrapped up in your GREAT BIG EGO!
Let's stipulate flatly that Newsweek made a serious error. For the sake of argument, let's even posit that the many other similar accounts of Koran desecration (with and without toilets) by American interrogators over the past two years are fantasy - even though they've been given credence by the International Committee of the Red Cross and have turned up repeatedly in legal depositions by torture victims and in newspapers as various as The Denver Post and The Financial Times. Let's also ignore the May 1 New York Times report that a former American interrogator at Guantánamo has corroborated a detainee's account of guards tossing Korans into a pile and stepping on them, thereby prompting a hunger strike. Why don't we just go all the way and erase those photographs of female guards sexually humiliating Muslims (among other heinous crimes) at Abu Ghraib?
* face plant on desk*
Similar accounts by who...the fucking terrorists themselves!!??!! The Red Cross took the statements of the terrorists !???
That's like taking the statements of a pedophile in a room full of kids...."who me...nawwww I never touched them"
Ahhh yes you mention ".similar accounts" by The Denver Post, The New York Times, The Financial Times, all three papers with HUGE LEFT WING AGENDAS that do not support Pres Bush, the War on Terror, the democratic process going on in Afganistan and Iraq! YEAH THOSE ARE REALLY RELIABLE AND TRUSTWORTHY SOURCES OF INFORMATION -NO HIDDEN AGENDA THERE!
And once again Frank, you have to mention ABU GHRAIB. *rolls eyes* Why not throw in Viet Nam while you're at it?
Newsflash Frank: we have dealt with those renegade soldiers who behaved in this manner at Abu Ghraib. We tried them, they were found guilty, and they are in PRISON!!! GET THE FUCK OVER IT!
Mention Abu G again and I WILL bitch slap you!
Even with all that evidence off the table, there is still an overwhelming record, much of it in government documents, that American interrogators have abused Muslim detainees with methods specifically chosen to hit their religious hot buttons. A Defense Department memo of October 2002 (published in full in Mark Danner's book "Torture and Truth") authorized such Muslim-baiting practices as depriving prisoners of "published religious items or materials" and forcing the removal of beards and clothing. A cable signed by Lt. Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez called for interrogators to "exploit Arab fear of dogs." (Muslims view them as unclean.) Even a weak-kneed government investigation of prison abuses (and deaths) in Iraq and Afghanistan issued in March by Vice Adm. Albert T. Church III of the Navy authenticated two cases in which female interrogators "touched and spoke to detainees in a sexually suggestive manner in order to incur stress based on the detainees' religious beliefs."
HELLLLLOOO YOU ASS! WE ARE INTEROGATING MASS MURDERERS WHO HAVE NO FEAR OF DEATH AND WHO KILL WOMEN AND CHILDREN WITHOUT REMORSE CLAIMING IT'S SANCTIONED DURING JIHAD!!
I DON'T CARE IF WE SHOVE SOMETHING UP THEIR BUTTS TO GET INFORMATION FROM THEM TO PREVENT THEIR JIHADIST BROTHERS FROM FLYING PLANES INTO BUILDINGS WITH MY FRIENDS IN THEM, OR TO PREVENT LITTLE GIRLS FROM BEING KILLED IN THE NAME OF JIHAD, OR TO PREVENT THESE TERRORISTS FROM PLANTING ANY MORE IEDS THAT KILL OUR TROUPS, OR TO STOP THEM FROM ASSASSINATING ELECTED IRAQI GOV'T OFFICIALS.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, STOP SUPPORTING THESE MASS MURDERERS, FRANK!!
I hope you never spend five minutes with the Mossad watching how they interrogate terrorists, you'll just freak when you see what "interrogation measures" they implement! Or maybe you should sit down and have a chat with Shitdam, and ask him to explain to you in great detail what HE did to political prisoners, the Kurds, anyone he disliked on any given day, those he suspected lied or betrayed him, and then you should ask the former head of the KGB now Russian President Putin, how they treated their terrorists, anyone they disliked, or any political prisoners!
About the Newsweek matter Donald Rumsfeld had a moral to bequeath the land. "People need to be careful what they say," he said, channeling Ari Fleischer, and added, "just as people need to be careful what they do." How true. If one of his right-hand men, Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin, hadn't been barnstorming American churches making internationally publicized pronouncements that his own Christian God is "a real god" and Islam's god is "an idol," maybe anti-American sentiment in the Middle East, at record highs even before the Newsweek incident, would have been a shade less lethal. If higher-ups had been called to account for the abuses of Abu Ghraib, maybe Newsweek might have had as little traction in the Arab world as The Onion.
OH SHUT THE FUCK UP! ARABS HAVE BEEN OVEREACTING TO EVERY LITTLE WORD AND INCIDENT THAT HAPPENS WHICH THEY FIND INSULTING.
I FIND YOU INSULTING! CAN I START RIOTING IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE??
APPARENTLY THE ARAB WORLD DOESNT FIND THE KILLING OF INNOCENT CHILDREN ENOUGH CAUSE TO RIOT AGAINST THOSE THAT HIJACK THEIR RELIGION, YET THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BOTHER YOU!
GROW UP FRANK! THESE TERRORISTS- THAT YOU AND ALL YOUR LEFT WING CRONIES THINK WE SHOULD TREAT WITH KID GLOVES, AND OFFER TEA AND BISCUITS TOO WHILE WE ASK NICELY FOR INFORMATION - HATE YOU!
THEY HATE EVERYTHING YOU REPRESENT.
THEY FLEW PLANES INTO BUILDINGS WHERE YOU LIVE AND WORK.
THEY HATE LIBERALS.
THEY THINK YOU HAVE RUINED A ONCE GOD FEARING CHRISTIAN COUNTRY AND THAT OUR WOMEN ARE LOOSE, OUR SECULARISM IS DISGRACEFUL AND THAT OUR KIDS- WHO REFUSE TO LISTEN TO THE AUTHORITY OF THEIR PARENTS AND SUE THEM FOR THE RIGHT TO PRIVACY- ARE A PRODUCT OF A SECULAR LIBERAL SOCIETY GONE TO HELL......AND YOU STILL WANT US TO MAKE NICEY NICEY TO THEM!
THEY'D KILL YOU FRANK. THEY HATE YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR! GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKED UP LEFT WING MIND!!
THEY COUNT ON YOUR LIBERAL STUPIDITY TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE TREATED NICELY AND TO RAGE AGAINST YOUR MILITARY WHEN THEY AREN'T!!
YOU, FRANK, ARE THEIR SHILL. YET THEY'D STILL KILL YA!
YOU'RE THE SHILL THAT THEY'D KILL!
Then again, even the administration's touchy-feely proactive outreach to Muslims in the Middle East is baloney: Karen Hughes, appointed with great fanfare by the president in March as our latest under secretary of state for public diplomacy (the third since 9/11), runs a shop with no Muslims at the top - or would, if she were there. As The Washington Post reported, she doesn't intend to assume her duties until the fall and the paperwork for her confirmation has yet to be sent to the Senate. Why rush? It's not as if there's a war on.
That's right Frank, how very progressive of you to target Karen Hughes before she has begun working! How very fair and balanced of you...how very liberal! How do you know what she plans to do UNTIL she takes office?
How about instead we target the support your paper has been giving Mass Murderers!! We know what you intend to do to help Muslim American relations...it's what you have been doing all along........NOT A DAMN THING!
You support Mass Murderers and provide them with any reason to add more fuel to their misplaced anti American anger, but you've done nothing to support the Afghanis, and the brave courageous Iraqi's that stood up to terror and voted, and who are now forming a fledgling democracy inspite of their lives being threatened, inspite of the many Iraqi's that have been killed lining up to be police officers, or who are being targeted and assassinated simply because they are gov't officials who were voted in by the Iraqi's, who are trying to create a better future for their country and their children based on democratic principals of freedom and gov't by the people for the people, or to support the foreigners who have risked their lives to help rebuild Iraq only to be kidnapped and beheaded.
Why rush to support their efforts --- its not like there's a war going on, Frank!
Given this context, the administration's attempt to pass the entire buck to Newsweek for our ill odor among Muslims, including those Muslims who abhor jihadists committing murder, is laughable. Yet there's something weirdly self-incriminating about the language it uses to do it. Richard Boucher, the State Department spokesman whose previous boss, Colin Powell, delivered a fictional recitation of Saddam Hussein's weapon capabilities before the United Nations Security Council, said it's "shocking" that Newsweek used "facts that have not been substantiated." Bryan Whitman, a Pentagon spokesman, attacked Newsweek for hiding "behind anonymous sources," yet it was an anonymous source, an Iraqi defector known as Curveball, who fed the fictions that Mr. Powell spouted to gin up America for war. Psychological displacement of this magnitude might give even Freud pause.
Given your personal,as well as your paper's, unbriddled support of Mass Murderers, I think the odor you are smelling among Muslims is the latest fragrance worn by left wing nuts like you," Eau De Lying Hypocrite" .
I hear you have to sell your soul to buy it!
What the fuck has one got to do with the other??? You are comparing the pursuit of Monica and Kathleen to the rioting caused by irresponsible lies printed in the MSM??? Rioting that cost the lives of 17 people, and is part of a calculated left wing agenda originally aimed at trying to prevent the re- election of Pres. Bush, which you failed at, and is now being used to continuously support Mass Murderers, at the expense of women and children, our troups, the coalition forces, other innocent Afghani's and Iraqi's, as well as those trying to rebuild the country; but mostly at the expense of spreading democracy in the Middle East; our last remaining hope of mitigating anymore unfounded attacks on the US and around the world by terrorists!
The only thing more ridiculous is the spectacle of the White House's various knee-jerk flacks on cable news shoutfests and in the blogosphere characterizing Newsweek as representative of a supposedly anti-American, military-hating "mainstream media." It wasn't long ago that the magazine and the co-author of the Periscope item, Michael Isikoff, were being cheered by the same crowd for their pursuit of Monica Lewinsky and Kathleen Willey.
As for the supposed antimilitary agenda of the so-called mainstream media, the right should look first at itself. In its eagerness to parrot the administration line, it's as ready to sell out the military as any clichéd leftist. For starters, it thought nothing of dismissing the judgment of Gen. Carl Eichenberry, our top commander in Afghanistan, who, according to Gen. Richard B. Myers, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, said the riots were "not at all tied to the article in the magazine."
Really Frank!*shakes head* Perhaps Gen. Myers is smart enough to understand that Gen Eichenberry's judgement was wrong. It seems that Gen Eichenberry's judgement doesn 't stand up to the judgement of the troups on the ground, the Afghanis, and the actual admission by Arabs that this was in reaction to the alleged desecration of the Koran! Sorry, Frank, but Eichenberry's judgement was off the mark! Perhaps I should direct you to milbloggers in Afghanistan who have first hand knowledge of what happened, why it happened, and who is to blame!
"The left's SUPPOSED anti military agenda"???
Dear Gawd Frank, YOU do Live in DENIAL! There is nothing SUPPOSED about it! There does exist now and has existed SINCE VIETNAM major liberal distrust of the military which has found its way into the liberal Media.
There IS Liberal anti Military bias and distrust in the MSM.
I'll be testing you on this next week Frank! Get it wrong and I'll bitch slap you again!
The right's rage at Newsweek is all too reminiscent of the contempt it heaped on Specialist Thomas Wilson, the soldier who dared to ask Mr. Rumsfeld at a town hall meeting in Kuwait in December about the shortage of armored vehicles. Mr. Wilson was guilty of "near-insubordination," said Rush Limbaugh; the embedded reporter who helped him frame his question was reviled by bloggers as a traitor. Yet Mr. Wilson's question was legitimate, and Mr. Rumsfeld's answer (that the shortage was only "a matter of production and capability") was a lie. As USA Today reported in March, the Pentagon has known for nearly two years that it didn't have enough armored Humvees but let the problem fester until that insubordinate questioner gave the defense secretary no choice but to act.
You need to get off your ass, get out of your guilded ivory tower, get over to Iraq, TALK TO the men and women putting their lives on the line and get THEIR opinion about a left wing reporter who USED the one unhappy Spc. he could find, and set up Sec Def Rumsfeld. Maybe you should ask the President how Sec Def offered to resign twice and was turned down. Maybe you should read the MILBLOGS that spoke of how respected SecDef is and how a good majority of Soldiers and Marines were PISSED OFF at Spc Wilson, but more so at THE REPORTER's underhandedness.
Prior to the question being posed, work had begun on up-armouring vehicles, and they were moving as quickly as they could....yes the Military is a bureauocracy and sometimes it moves too slowly..but it was moving. And once again you quote USA Today, that same Left wing paper that frames everything it writes about from its LEFT WING POV!
And what the fuck has that got to do with Newsweek's irresponsible reporting; with Newsweek choosing to print LIES which THEY ADMITED were unverifiable and problably not true?!
We jumped on what the Specialist said because we knew he had been used by the left wing liberal press and we resented the MSM for this little stunt! And the right wing media jumped on it because they knew the soldiers didn't feel it was a fair question given the circumstances nor representative of how they felt! OUR ANGER TOWARDS THAT INCIDENT DIDNT CAUSE RIOTS IN THE STREETS and it didnt add fuel to the festering fires of jihadists who hate America INCLUDING THE MSM ELITES OF WHICH YOU BELONG!
It's also because of incompetent Pentagon planning that other troops may now be victims of weapons looted from Saddam's munitions depots after the fall of Baghdad. Yet when The New York Times reported one such looting incident, in Al Qaqaa, before the election, the administration and many in the blogosphere reflexively branded the story fraudulent. But the story was true. It was later corroborated not only by United States Army reservists and national guardsmen who spoke to The Los Angeles Times but also by Iraq's own deputy minister of industry, who told The New York Times two months ago that Al Qaqaa was only one of many such weapon caches hijacked on America's undermanned post-invasion watch.
Weapons caches hijacked?? How is that POSSIBLE? The MSM claims that NO WMDS have EVER been found in Iraq!! Make up your deranged mind!!
"mistakes were made" whine whine whine...Oh please....Frank...so some mistakes have happened during this war...shall we go over the litany of mistakes made in WW2. OR better yet, shall we go over the litany of LIES, MISREPRESENTATION OF FACTS, and CRAP THAT'S COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH, and most of the MSM?
War is hell! No one is denying that; wars are conducted by people, and people make mistakes, mostly by underestimating the enemy! But,what is your excuse for sleeping with the enemy and making the big mistake of supporting terrorists instead of those who are seeking to bring forth democracy and freedom and help push the Arab world into the 21st Century?
IT is terrible that Newsweek was wrong, though it's worth noting, as John Donvan of ABC News did, that the Defense Department's claim that its story was "demonstrably" false is also an overreach. Almost nothing that happens in the sealed prison at Guantánamo is as demonstrable as, say, Saddam's underwear. But if something good can come out of something bad, the administration's overkill of Newsweek may focus greater public attention on just how much it is using press-bashing to deflect attention from the fictions spun by its own propaganda machine.
Wait, first you say they weren't wrong, and that the "right" is over reacting for no reason, and now you say that IT IS Terrible, and Newsweek was wrong? Have you've been hanging around Kerry lately?? Make up your mind!
By the way, Frank, "Terrible" is what happens when the stock market crashes. TERRIBLE IS NOT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN LIES AND IRRESPONSIBLE REPORTING OF ALLEGED UNVERIFIABLE INFORMATION IS PRESENTED AS FACT AND RESULTS IN ADDING MORE FUEL TO THE SMALL MINORITY IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN THAT RESENT DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM, WHICH IN TURN FUELS A RIOT THAT RESULTS IN THE DEATH OF 17 PEOPLE, ENDANGERS COUNTLESS OTHERS, AND WHOSE LIES SERVE TO SET BACK THE PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ!
When that happens Frank, it's called a TRAVESTY!
The press is being bashed because of their PERPETUAL one sided, left wing, anti Bush, pro terrorist, pro mass murderers, pro jihadists, stance. Your left wing agenda coupled with your elitist arrogance, which has you convinced that you represent all enlightened mainstream Americans, cost you the election, and has cost you - and all your MSM cronies- ratings, ad revenues, subscribers, and the respect of the real majority of honest intelligent Americans that are smart enough to see through your bullshit!
You and your cronies have no one to blame but yourselves for any press bashing that has gone on!
Just since the election, we've witnessed the unmasking of Armstrong Williams and Jeff Gannon.
Prior to and long after the election we have witnessed the demise of Dan Rather, Eason Jordan, and many more but not nearly enough, left wing elitists in the media. So what's your point?
We've learned - thanks to Newsweek's parent publication, The Washington Post - that the Pentagon went so far as to deliberately hide the circumstances of Pat Tillman's friendly-fire death from his own family for weeks, lest the truth mar the P.R. advantages to be reaped from his memorial service.
We've learned that any "unbiased" sources at The Washington Post who own Newsweek, cannot be trusted! Now they claim that the Pentagon deliberately HID the truth about Pat Tillman! Since when does waiting until an investigation is complete before releasing the findings constitute deliberately HIDING the information? At least they investigated and got at the truth before printing anything, which is more than I can say for Newsweek and most of the MSM!
PR advantages reaped by who? Pat's family? Maybe the Pentagon felt the need to allow them to bury Pat Tillman, deal with his death, and then in due time share with them the findings, rather than spring it on them during an already painful time.
You have a nerve to talk about reaping PR advantages,Frank!
Your newspaper has provided the terrorists with so much positive PR in an effort to win over the hearts and minds of Arabs, turn the American public against their own gov't, give their jihadist cause a measure of credence, and enable the Arabs who only receive Anti Israel, Anti America perspectives from their biased media to receive MORE anti American perspective from a biased American Media, encouraging their anger and fueling more hatred towards America and Americans!!!!
I'm beginning to think that the paper you work for should be called THE ARAB TIMES!
I'm not claiming that either side is perfect, but only ONE side has made it a point to try to bring down the Presidency, deliberately interfered with the 2004 Presidential election, supported terrorism, exonerated mass murderers, offered one side of the events going on Iraq ( the side that SUPPORTS terrorists) refused to acknowledge a legimitate election in Iraq, (Chris Mathews FINALLY conceded the election had happened and was legit THREE WEEKS LATER in a very quiet voice on his show and without any fanfare) and only one side continues to lend credence to everything that these terrorists do to undermine our efforts at forming a democratic gov't and bringing order and stability to the small part of Iraq that is still troubled.
CARE to guess which side that might be??? HINT: LEAN LEFT!!!!
You are, of course, referring to the steady drip of LEFT WING subterfuge and news manipulation, right??
This steady drip of subterfuge and news manipulation increasingly tells a more compelling story than the old news that Newsweek so egregiously botched.
No.....of course not! I forgot......Truth doesn't become you!